[Grastens 7]

Right!

Of the Schwarze aces or enemy aces in the Belkan War at Operation Battle-Axe, I wonder if someone took up the scheme or the aircraft for the Circum-Pacific War...

[Traben]

I have always liked the MiG-21-93, and Huckebein's scheme is really something to add to the aircraft. That does seem like an interesting choice for such an esteemed ace, though. Why not something a bit more modern?

[Ribbon-Azure]

Perhaps... because he was so old and experienced... either that or modest.

[Grastens 7]

He must have been flying that plane when he started...

Reading the article, yes he was. The Fishbed was still around in Vietnam-era warfare, when Pops would have started his military career. Given that today's military aircraft are so different, he may have tried a couple, but settled on the Fishbed after he had difficulty flying a more modern aircraft.

I read the article again, and I ask: Was Bartlett shot down by Galm? I figured that the Oseans were part of the Allied pact, as well as the Ustian mercenaries...

[Traben]

Nope. He was shot down by a Belkan - his IFF disappears partway through the level. Besides, he shows up as a friendly during the mission.

I think they could have actually played that out in the fight. In AC5 you see Chopper flying toward the stadium before the cutscene starts (which I thought was really cool and I give props to Namco for that). You don't see Bernitz shooting down Huckebein (which should definitely happen). No cutscene necessary, just do it in-game.

[Green Giant]

I have always liked the MiG-21-93, and Huckebein's scheme is really something to add to the aircraft. That does seem like an interesting choice for such an esteemed ace, though. Why not something a bit more modern?

Not much different selection the Silber 1 flying an F-4E. Both pilots felt comfortable flying their selected aircraft, sot that's the gist of it.

Nope. He was shot down by a Belkan - his IFF disappears partway through the level. Besides, he shows up as a friendly during the mission.

I think they could have actually played that out in the fight. In AC5 you see Chopper flying toward the stadium before the cutscene starts (which I thought was really cool and I give props to Namco for that). You don't see Bernitz shooting down Huckebein (which should definitely happen). No cutscene necessary, just do it in-game.

In AC5, they never actually come out and say that Bernitz Shoots down Pops.... Besides, how could you get the Ace Assult Record for Pops of Grabacr shoots him down.

[Ribbon-Azure]

It was a cameo from hell.

[Demon Lord Razgriz]

If you play Operation: Battle Axe Merc style on ether Hard or Ace diff, after the cutscene where Pops shows up, if you just watch Pops, you'll see Pop & HB1 get shot down by Grabacr after a long dogfight between the 3.

[Grastens 7]

I'll have to try that...

I just misread the article; I thought it read that Pops was shot down by Bernitz, who was shot down by Bartlett before Galm Team shot him down. Instead, it read that Bernitz put both Bartlett and Buchner out of action before Galm finished the Belkan off.

Perhaps if Cipher does not shoot down Huckebein, then Bernitz does, THEN Bernitz is shot down.

[Green Giant]

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[El Tweako]

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[Shirai_Kuroko]

I wonder what is Pops (Wolfgang Buchner) doing at the night of the air raid on Sand Island airbase (Ace Combat 5, Mission 04-First Flight) by taking off in his C-1 Trader? I don't think that he is trying to flee because he returns in the following morning. Any idea, guys? I'm totally puzzled.

[infernal]

One of the Grabacr fighters in the last mission of AC5 says something like "We will realize victory that that has been denied us by a traitor". When he refers to "traitor" I immediately think of Huckebein. (as he was the only prominent character labeled as such in ACX and AC5) if this is so, it makes me wonder.

When I look at the words some more of that line the Grabacr pilot says, it almost makes it seem like Huckebein had some clinching power that could have won the war back in 1995. Or was set to partake in some kind of undertaking that played a huge role involving victory...as if Huckebein prevented (maybe Belka, as a whole) from achieving victory (if they're referring 'we' as Belkans in the Belkan War) and totally winning the war. Since he was assigned to drop a nuclear weapon on a city in his own country before the June 6 bomb dropping, and defected, maybe Pops had a much larger role in the story is its made out to be. Something more than just dropping a nuke. A role that one of the Grabacr pilots seems to think could have won the war.

Granted this is just speculation, but it does have me thinking something curious was afoot.

[Grastens 7]

Perhaps there would have been eight nuclear bombs detonated in Belka instead of just seven if Buchner had not defected? If seven nukes did not stop the Allied forces from advancing, it seems difficult to believe that eight would, though, and the weapons were detonated instead of dropped.

Building on those thoughts, maybe Buchner had been assigned to one of the bombers in Mission 12 (The Stage of Apocalypse)...