[Ribbon-Azure]

THE "INVINCIBLE" AEGIR FLEET
- Pride of the Erusean Navy


- an image taken from the Cruiser Beluga of the Battleship Tanager, heavily damaged. Taken on November 23rd, 2004. -


Background:
The Aegir Fleet is primarily made up of twelve notable ships within it's main battle group. During the preparation for the amphibious assault, the Aegir Fleet was supported by multiple Destroyers, Submarines, Crusiers, and various cargo, troop and fuel transports. The Battleship Tanager had taken the place as the Flag Ship of the Aegir Fleet; this was odd since the Flagship of Modern Naval Fleets is usually the Aircraft Carrier.

History:
The Aegir Fleet had become one of the most threatening Erusean controlled 'units', during the Usean Continental War of 2004 and 2005. With their fleet's title being "Invincible", the pride in which Erusea had in them and the fear they instilled in the ISAF, it is assumed the Aegir Fleet had never lost a battle in the early stages of the Continental War, if not before that. When the war had settled across the Usean Continent with the ISAF operating from North Point on the Eastern-Coast, the Aegir Fleet saw little action.

This was until they were suddenly given orders to move out to Comberth Harbor, in the midst of a large campaign to send reinforcements to the frontlines and prepare an invasion of North Point. The Aegir Fleet was to be the centerpiece of the Amphibious Assault Force which had that very goal. However, on the way there, problems had arisen. Many large aerial transports were shot down by ISAF Aircraft on their way to Comberth Harbor.

The Aegir Fleet made its way to the Harbor, without any damage, and linked up with the amphibious assault group. As they waited in harbor, an unexpected ISAF Air Raid attacked the petrol chemical facility, which was to supply the enormous fleet . This effectively delayed Erusea's plans to invade North Point and also immobilized the Aegir Fleet.

Striking while the iron was hot, the Independent States Allied Forces launched an attack on the "Invincible" Aegir Fleet, on November 23rd, 2004. The ISAF codenamed this attack "Operation: Rough Seas". The attack began at around 1200hrs. and lasted for fifteen minutes. During the attack the Erusean Naval and Ground Forces were caught completely off guard. Initially, some thought it was a training exercise. The Aegir Fleet was spread out through out Comberth Harbor. The Geofon, Raven, Beluga and Tanager were caught at anchor, outside of the Harbor. The ships were decimated. The Battleship Tanager was split in half by a well placed enemy attack, during the battle.


-overhead view of New Comberth Harbor-

Lazuli, Koga, Fernis, Taisch, Herne and Thiassi were destroyed within their maintenance areas near the ammo and fuel dump, and also near the submarine pens before they could make open water. The Submarine Beowulf Nu was destroyed leaving the sub pens, while the Beowulf Pi was destroyed in the pens.

The battle resulted in the Aegir Fleet being destroyed, the amphibious assault fleet being destroyed and any plans for an Erusean invasion of North Point have been called off. Erusea's morale takes damage during this attack, while the ISAF utilized this amazing victory to fuel their counterattack.


Vessels of the Aegir Fleet:
* Aegis-Class 'Raven' - Ticonderoga-class Cruiser
* Battleship 'Tanager' - Iowa Class Battleship
* Carrier 'Geofon' - Kitty Hawk-Class Aircraft Carrier
* Cruiser 'Beluga' - Hatakaze-class Destroyer
* Cruiser 'Lazuli' - Hatakaze-class Destroyer
* Cruiser 'Kolga' - Hatakaze-class Destroyer
* Cruiser 'Fenris' - Hatakaze-class Destroyer
* Destroyer 'Herne' - Cassard-class Destroyer
* Destroyer 'Thiassi' - Cassard-class Destroyer
* Destroyer 'Taisch' - Cassard-class Destroyer
* Submarine 'Beowulf Pi' - Los Angeles-class Submarine
* Submarine 'Beowulf Nu' - Los Angeles-class Submarine



SOURCES:
Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
Official Ace Combat 04 Website


ACCREDITATION:
elude for the resizing image of New Comberth Harbor


*Originally posted by Ribbon Blue*

[Green Giant]

Edited for Grammar and spelling.

[Green Giant]

Major revision to the format and added a link to the AC4 site in the source section.

If making corrections to the article, DO NOT Change the format.

[Apollo]

Intersesting note: even if you destroy the Tanager, there will still be a transmisson stating it escaped.

[Ribbon-Blue]

That always boggles my mind. I mean... the thing snaps in half for crying out loud.

[Ribbon-Rena]

Escaped the port isn't it?? It escaped.. but not to the seas.. Or Am I wrong?

And for the info about the usual Flagship, US 7th Fleet doesn't use it's carrier as a flagship, it was this special Command Ship..

[AceofAces]

Well they must be talking about it getting out the bays...plus if you look, in the area it's in there's loads of water and no land in the direction it's facing so maybe it is already at sea. And I was disappointed that the Tanager and pesky missile boats were the only boats that actually SANK when destroyed...not to mention the Tanager splitting down the middle if you look closely at it from the side.
Also, in Siege of Farbanti, is that a different battleship besides the Iowa class or something? It's worth more points, and takes much more beating to destroy; also, it doesn't sink like the Tanager does because it's "Run aground and won't" sink, so I'm guessing the water's too shallow.

[Apollo]

That always boggles my mind. I mean... the thing snaps in half for crying out loud.

They could have said that because they didn't want to lose morale. I mean, it's the FLAGSHIP of the INVINCIBLE FLEET. If they said, "OMG, the flagship of our invincible fleet just got blown in half by ISAF fighters because we were to lazy to send out some ships on a patrol!" (or something like that ) well, the whole freakin' navy might as well surrender.

[Green Giant]

Escaped the port isn't it?? It escaped.. but not to the seas.. Or Am I wrong?

And for the info about the usual Flagship, US 7th Fleet doesn't use it's carrier as a flagship, it was this special Command Ship..

Thsi is correct. Usually the Task Force or Battle Group Commander uses the Carrier as the Flagship.. The Fleet commander uses a special Command Ship such as the La Salle and Blue Ridge Class ships..

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys...ship/lcc-19.htm

[Ribbon-Rena]

About sinking ships, it would be realistic to not sink the ships in an instant such as in ACX, especially larger ships.
Battleships and carrier tend to sink a lot slower than usual ships. Do note that the attacks are coming from bombs and not torpedoes, and it didn't specially mention that we hit the munitions bay. Thus it might be possible to "damage the ship beyond repair" and still consider it sunk. AC3 ships will still float with flames around, that's the most realistic one so far..

[Green Giant]

Another problem is with battleships. They are pretty much impervious to antiship missiles.

Harpoon missiles have a high explosive warhead designed to penetrate the thin skin of most modern naval ships. The Iowa Class Battleships had a 16 inch armor belt at the waterline for torpedoes. Since your Antiship missiles are designed to impact at the waterline, they are pretty much useless.

the only real way to take them out will bombs is with armor-piercing bombs.

[Ribbon-Rena]

ASM? You guys got Penguins in the US right? If I recall correctly it can skim low-high-low and ends with vertical dive (kinda like XAGM), that would be quite useful as Battleship had lots of deck space and not-so-thick armor on it.

That said if the missile could get past the highly advanced RAMs and CIWS..

[Green Giant]

ASM? You guys got Penguins in the US right? If I recall correctly it can skim low-high-low and ends with vertical dive (kinda like XAGM), that would be quite useful as Battleship had lots of deck space and not-so-thick armor on it.

That said if the missile could get past the highly advanced RAMs and CIWS..

Actually, since the Iowa Class was built after Pearl Harbor, they were design with fairly thick deck armor as well.
The only real weapon that could take out a battleship in most modern weapons inventories is a Tactical Nuc.

[Demon Lord Razgriz]

Another problem is with battleships. They are pretty much impervious to antiship missiles.

Harpoon missiles have a high explosive warhead designed to penetrate the thin skin of most modern naval ships. The Iowa Class Battleships had a 16 inch armor belt at the waterline for torpedoes. Since your Antiship missiles are designed to impact at the waterline, they are pretty much useless.

the only real way to take them out will bombs is with armor-piercing bombs.

Actually, since the Iowa Class was built after Pearl Harbor, they were design with fairly thick deck armor as well.
The only real weapon that could take out a battleship in most modern weapons inventories is a Tactical Nuc.

Finally! Someone who realizes that Battleships are still capable of fighting on todays battlefield and survive with ease.

[Heinkel]

Actually, since the Iowa Class was built after Pearl Harbor, they were design with fairly thick deck armor as well.
The only real weapon that could take out a battleship in most modern weapons inventories is a Tactical Nuc.

ROFL, that just spews ignorance. So torpedoes (General Belgrano was sunk by two old torpedoes), bunker busters (Vittorio Veneto-class was sunk by two AP bombs), heavy cruise/antiship missiles, other heavy artillery and BRBMs carry the same ammount of energy as a nuke, eh?
I'd like to mention how the german Prinz Eugen was not sunk by an underwater nuke and the USS Arkansas survived an airburst just 170 yards away. Both nukes were more powerful than today's tacticals.

Okaay, guys, take in mind you are using the completely laughable Harpoon as a comparison point. Why not the Moskit or the Oniks, that travel at thrice the speed and have much bigger warheads? Also, AShMs are never fired alone but most modern tactics involve the missiles being fired en masse (no, the Kirov isn't completely covered in VLSs just for the lulz). Even if the battleship destroyed the missile when in close it would still be enough of a kinetic projectile to damage the battleship. And of course, there would be more in the way.

the only real way to take them out will bombs is with armor-piercing bombs.

What the crap are you talking about? AShMs ARE armor-piercing

[Tazuren]

I'd like to mention how the german Prinz Eugen was not sunk by an underwater nuke and the USS Arkansas survived an airburst just 170 yards away. Both nukes were more powerful than today's tacticals.

That was with the Baker event of the Operation Crossroads test wasn't it?

[Ribbon-Rena]

Well, battleships are quite powerful defensively, but offensively, their guns are less-useful other than Beach bombardment. With, missiles though.. It's a different story..

So.. [/END]??

[Heinkel]

Um, no, actually. They lack AEGIS, so they must be escorted by other ships.

[Ribbon-Blue]

Now that I think about it, a Battleship packing an AEGIS system would be quite the beast. It'd probably need more upgrades than that, but it'd definitely be even more of a threat.