[Traben]

Su-35 "Super Flanker"
- Air Superiority Fighter -




Su-35 Image A

Origin (Real World):
Russian Federation

Games Featured In:
Air Combat (?)
Ace Combat 2
Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies
Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War

Operators:
Erusean Air Force
Independent State Allied Forces
Osean Air Defense Force
Special Tactical Fighter Squadron "Scarface"
Usean Rebel Force
Yuktobanian Air Force (Ofnir Squadron)

Ace Squadron Pilot(s):
Neujmin / FEAF (AC4)
Ofnir Squadron / YAF (AC5)

Variants:
Su-27 'Flanker'
Su-32 'Strike Flanker'
Su-33 'Flanker-D'
Su-37 'Terminator'

Armaments:
Gun / one 30mm GSh-301 Cannon
Standard Missiles / R-60 AAM
UGBM / [unknown] (AC4)
XLAA / R-33/37 BVR (AC4/AC5)

Ace Combat 2 Stats:
Power: 90
Defense: 60
Mobility: 80
Stability: 70
Climbing Ability: 90
Air-to-Air: 80
Air-to-Ground: 80

Ace Combat 04 Stats:
Speed: 91
Air to Air: 85
Air to Ground: 35
Mobility: 96
Stability: 50
Defense: 77

Ace Combat 2 Stats:
Speed: 83
Mobility: 85
Stability: 73
Defense: 66
Air-to-Air: 93
Air-to-Ground: 56

Overview:
The Su-35 is an advanced Su-27 derivative and was initially designated Su-27M. The Su-27M development began in the early 1980s. A Su-27M prototype (T-10S-70) first flew in 1988. Changes from the Su-27 include canards, upgraded engines, new radar, and a digital fly by wire flight control system. Other changes made were glass cockpit, aerial refueling probe, twin-wheel nose gear, more powerful radar, two additional underwing pylons, additional fuel capacity, and larger tail fins with horizontal carbon fibre tips.

The first prototype was publicly displayed in 1992 at the Farnborough Air show. Sukhoi changed Su-27M's designation to Su-35 in 1993. Ten prototypes Su-35s were built with four being converted Su-27s and the others being new-builds.Three production Su-27Ms were completed in 1996 and delivered to Russian Air Force (VVS) that year for testing. Five Su-35s have used by the Russian Knights display team. In total 15 flight Su-35 (Su-27M) aircraft were produced, including a Su-35UB two-seat prototype. Two Su-35s were modified into Su-37s in the mid to late 1990s. The Su-35 has been (unoffically) nicknamed, "Super Flanker.”

ACCREDITATION:
Article Edited By: Berserker

[Grastens 7]

In AC04, it is:

Speed: 91
Air to Air: 85
Air to Ground: 35
Mobility: 96
Stability: 50
Defense: 77

[JianDaoXiao]

Su-35 Super flanker model, Neujmin paintscheme:

[kuroi tsubasa]

JDX, the Su-35 does appear in AC1. It was just named the Su-27 for some odd reason....

Although I admit, while the canards are quite difficult to see, they are there...

[JianDaoXiao]

http://electrosphere.info/index.php?showtopic=154

[kuroi tsubasa]

The Flanker in AC1 has canards, so it can't be a Su-27... ._.;

[Grastens 7]

Edited grammar and spelling.

By all means, Intelligence information already existed on the Su-27 by the time AC was out.

[JakeHarlow]

So, how is the Su-37 different from this bad boy? Thrust vectoring?

[Green Giant]

Updated the article format.

Please don't make any changes.

[The Meta]

Added better background infomation, specifications.

[Broth3r]

Yang from Air Combat is a Su-27 ace, not Su-35. Ok yes, AC1's -27 is actually a -35, but as it is credited in the Su-27 page, it should stay there until the debate is resolved. Having the ace here while the game itself isn't credited can create confusion.

[Millie]

Article updated to include "A" variant status in title to differeniate from Su-35S.

Additionally added Air Combat to list of games, however I have a question mark next to it, as though the model in the game would appear to be that of the Su-35, it is labeled Su-27(maybe referring to its original status as Su-27M?).

And finally, format updated to get rid of the HTML crap. Sources deleted, as what was listed was neither in proper format nor true. I'll get back to adding those in the future and/or rewriting the article to conform to a more abbreviated and orginally written format.

[EstovakianHarrierPlus]

Millie, on 04 November 2011 - 03:19 AM, said:

Article updated to include "A" variant status in title to differeniate from Su-35S.

Additionally added Air Combat to list of games, however I have a question mark next to it, as though the model in the game would appear to be that of the Su-35, it is labeled Su-27(maybe referring to its original status as Su-27M?).

And finally, format updated to get rid of the HTML crap. Sources deleted, as what was listed was neither in proper format nor true. I'll get back to adding those in the future and/or rewriting the article to conform to a more abbreviated and orginally written format.

I thought the Su-35 was the Su-27BM?

[Shirai_Kuroko]

Heh-heh. The official designation is now Su-35, Rodd. I still remember you keep telling us call the Su-35BM as Su-35S as it is the official designation?

[Eurocanard]

Shirai_Kuroko, on 05 November 2011 - 09:05 AM, said:

Heh-heh. The official designation is now Su-35, Rodd. I still remember you keep telling us call the Su-35BM as Su-35S as it is the official designation?

Unlike the other variants we erroneously thought would show up in AH (F-16CJ, A-10C, MiG-29K) which were based on tailcodes and paintschemes rather than the aircraft itself, there are still very good reasons here for the Su-35S to be separate from this article. There are major physical differences between the S variant and the old variant we have here, and it's quite clear that, no matter what the game says, we have the S or BM variant in AH. PA just oversimplified their designation, but that doesn't necessarily let us do the same thing, especially when that designation conflicts with existing material. It's more important that the facts are right, so I say keep the S article, and maybe put something at the top of this one noting "For the Su-35 in ACAH, see 'Su-35S'"

[Millie]

Let me explain why the designation difference exists here

The Su-35A and Su-35BM are a product of the oft-confusing Russian designation system. Whereas the United States simply labels their aircraft A, B, C and so on for each variant, the Russians usually have a meaning behind their letters. Su-27M was the original designation for the Su-35, M meaning Modernized. It received a name change at behest of Sukhoi as a marketing attempt, passing it off as a brand new fighter (their internal name was T-10M at the time). They were probably half right. The problem is that it still maintained too much of the Flanker's lines to really justify it. (The United States has kinda toyed with this as well with the Hornet family tree.)

So When it came down to it, the Russian government still referred to it as Su-27M. Sukhoi continued to push their own designations for marketing more steadily, also resulting in the Su-37, which was just an Su-27M with TVC. Again, the Russians still insisted on calling it the Su-27M, with no designation change even with the TVC addition. Had they have named the Su-37 the Su-35M, then Sukhoi would have run into the same marketing dilemma of blatantly showing that they were offering a modified old product rather than a "brand new" one.

The last Flanker has two names as well. The Russian government would reffer to it as Su-27BM, while Sukhoi, retaining their original marketing name (and even pointing it out in their marketing video shown at MAKS in 2008) of Su-35BM. BM in this case means "Deep Modernization". When the aircraft finally met with a Russian order, the government, probably noting that this really was a very new aircraft, even down to subtle airframe cues, relented and designated it Su-35S. S in this case standing for "Serial" (as in serial production). In turn, this would redesignate the orginal Su-35 as Su-35A; A standing for "Alpha" or "Prototype", similar to the MiG-29A (the real one rather than the one featured in game which is actually a misdesignation for the actual fighter by the United States) or the T-10A, the prototype of the Su-27. This likely is not an official designation, but because it was not an official Russian AF designation to begin with, and was rather one fabricated by Sukhoi for marketing there's nothing saying that it would not be an effective way to note the difference between the two.

A little clearer now? Unfortunately, the whole debacle of the Russian naming system is a little convoluted, and will likely continue to be, but that's part of the consequence of openly marketing an exporting to other nations. You can see the same thing happen in the United States with the F-16, and the F-15 isn't too far off from having the same problem.

Basically the Russian designation system would go A, S, M, in order of generation. With "A" being the prototype, "S" being the serial production airframe, and "M" being an updated modernized version of that airframe. Additional designations would be "K" for navy, or "U" for trainer variants. It doesn't help that there are dual meanings for certain things, like "K" can either mean "navy" or "export" or "Kitayski", the Russian word for China. (meaning a Chinese Su-33 would actually be called "Su-27KKK". Lulz ensues). So you run into this designation mess that has, in all honesty, taken me literally eight years to sort an understand. The worst part? I might still be wrong.