[Ribbon-Rena]

The 3rd person view bothers me.. A bit n00bish no?

[son of a bandit]

AJ has discovered that among the planes returning (F-22, Su-33, A-10A, and a playable AH-64A) 2 planes have caught my eye.



One, for the first time in almost 15 years, the Sukhoi Su-25 "Frogfoot" makes it's appearance. Last time we've seen the Frogfoot in an AC title was 2. So at least I'm a bit happy that one of my favorite attackers is back.

and then there is the Su-24MP "Fencer-F", an ELINT model of the Su-24 designed to replace the Yak-28PP "Brewer-E," therefore the Fencer in this game is a Jammer aircraft....which sucks.

So...once again my opinions are mixed. :|

Note that those craft are also in blue boxes, traditionally representing allies. That's a good sign of non-side specific plane choices.

[NekoArk]

And I'm mixed on the new "Ace Combat" logo design.

Looks WAY too much like the Call of Duty logo. ):<

[Shieldheart]

Heh... as far as the trailer goes, Ace Combat has been shifted into something that I can't recognize as Ace Combat anymore.

Started from ACX2:JA, AC has been shifted from Strangereal World into the Real World, but still keeping the original component intact (storyline, super weapons, super planes, enemy aces, cheesy conversation, tunnel mission, etc).

And then AC:AH... they've completely shifted the game into something else. No super weapons, no super planes, HAWX and MW2 style, even possibly rail shooter style.

As far as the trailer goes though.. I'll keep my faith on Project ACES until both games released.

But I really hope that Ace Combat won't go this way:

7 years ago, Ace Combat is "Nothing Else Comes Close"
But now, Ace Combat is just "Something Else Comes Again"

If AH really goes this way... NBGI should just name this game Assault Horizon, and leave Ace Combat alone.
Just release a brand new game dammit.

[Millie]

Interesting that we might get the Fencer anyway. It might be the ELINT version, but its always possible they'll arm it for us. Look at the EA-6B or EA-18G. Plus this gives it a chance that the F-111 will be available as a counterpart, which I've been hoping for for a long time.

[Geopelia]

Heh... as far as the trailer goes, Ace Combat has been shifted into something that I can't recognize as Ace Combat anymore.

Started from ACX2:JA, AC has been shifted from Strangereal World into the Real World, but still keeping the original component intact (storyline, super weapons, super planes, enemy aces, cheesy conversation, tunnel mission, etc).

And then AC:AH... they've completely shifted the game into something else. No super weapons, no super planes, HAWX and MW2 style, even possibly rail shooter style.

As far as the trailer goes though.. I'll keep my faith on Project ACES until both games released.

I'm very excited about the launch of the new game. Finally it is multiplatform and the graphics look great but I agree with Shieldheart. I feel that it is abandoning the essence of the first games, maybe this radical change will give us good things but so much influence from other games like HAWX bothers me,
Well, lets wait the TGS and see!

[Claymore Suicidal Paratrooper]

More like calling BFBC2 Battlefield 3.

[Ribbon-Azure]

According to this, the same old Ace Combat gameplay will return. However, there will be some changes. The trailer is gameplay; however, this is a special mode, called "Close Range Assault". Depending on the type of aircraft you choose, it will also determine force composition in the game (apparently?). Thoughts?

[Concept X (ACS)]

According to this, the same old Ace Combat gameplay will return. However, there will be some changes. The trailer is gameplay; however, this is a special mode, called "Close Range Assault". Depending on the type of aircraft you choose, it will also determine force composition in the game (apparently?). Thoughts?

Thats sounds pretty nice.

[Ribbon-Blue]

OH! So it's an optional camera view/game play? I thought it was going to be something essential like OFF mode in HAWX. That's really great to hear! Stories come and go, but if you really sit down and look at it all, the style of game play is really the most important part of Ace Combat... just image trying to play Ace Combat 04 with HAWX game play. It would seem a bit ridiculous to me.

[Millie]

Imagine a modern Ace Combat game where the F-15E had an in game model of an F-15C.

And people wonder why I blew off HAWX so quickly...

[Eurocanard]

According to this, the same old Ace Combat gameplay will return. However, there will be some changes. The trailer is gameplay; however, this is a special mode, called "Close Range Assault". Depending on the type of aircraft you choose, it will also determine force composition in the game (apparently?). Thoughts?

Interesting that they hired "A Military Author" to advise on the story. "Military Author"... someone in the same line of work as, say, Tom Clancy at Ubisoft? I guess the more things change, the more they become the same...

[Silber 6]

Wait, what?

The previous Ace Combat games didn't need no stinking Military Authors, all of them are the same, writing about US vs. Russia, like Russia is the only opponent we are fighting, what about China? What about Central Africa? >:(

[Jetfreak]

If anything, I hope they can at least get the game OST right, It's always been the high point of AC games.

[Broth3r]

If anything, I hope they can at least get the game OST right, It's always been the high point of AC games.

Well, for the little we've seen so far, they seem to be headed in the right direction.
When I heard that guitar solo when the word "Rebirth" is shown, I almost jumped from my chair.

About time rock claims back it's rightful place as THE music for dogfights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Eyt1d0NqI

^.^

[Eurocanard]

Wait, what?

The previous Ace Combat games didn't need no stinking Military Authors, all of them are the same, writing about US vs. Russia, like Russia is the only opponent we are fighting, what about China? What about Central Africa? >:(

I've always liked Ace Combat's plot. I can...feel it. There's more emotion to it. That was always one of the high points of the series, so I hope Mr. Military Author doesn't mess with the plot too much...

[Ribbon-Azure]

Announced a few days ago, the new chapter to that Ace Combat Namco Bandai born with ambitions extremely important.

In the press of gamescom we were able to chat with Kazutoki Kono, producer of this episode Horizon Assault subtitle, unfortunately, the interview was not accompanied by any new visual material but only the trailer's debut, released already last week. Based then on the words of St. Kono, what transpires is that the determination to make a change to a franchise obviously need a strong review from the perspective of game mechanics, largely anchored in the series debuts. Actually Ace Combat: Assault Horizon has even been called a renaissance, a term often abused but in this case seems to have the foundations of reality.
Shift
The key is definitely what the producer called "Close Range Assault System" on paper is a system that actually ravvicinerà the player, and then his airplane at the center. There was talk of dogfights at a short distance, passing between buildings collapsing, explosions and two steps and the like, though all for now it remains only on paper, it is clear that the programs aim to reduce "dead time" phases Flight markedly increasing the specific weight of the component within the period of spectacular action game. Among other things we will be able to destroy many buildings in the cities, an interesting but not pay the next possible mass destruction in the face of limited resources, however the player will have. Unlike previous episodes there should be support company, requiring to meet the solo missions in story mode.

Also for the first time the setting is real and not fanciful, so here we will fight to the skies in Miami as well as other U.S. cities, then in East Africa and the Middle East. It is not lack support for the development team, some military advisors who have provided information and advice; the plot but just marginally revealed, seems to revolve around a dangerous bomb developed by some Middle Eastern states. Obviously not miss an extensive online multiplayer modes, which, however, the team is still working, which is why we were not allowed to know neither the content nor the number of players that will characterize. Finally the last note to park aircraft available, around 40 units that will also include helicopters, as the goal by San Kono is to focus not so much on quantity as the effective separation of individual means in the control and conduct the user commands.

Translated from some Italian site.

[Shieldheart]

the plot but just marginally revealed, seems to revolve around a dangerous bomb developed by some Middle Eastern states

Yeah, right, now that's original...

[Ribbon-Raven]

They're going supa-dupa mainstream, AH will be totally broad.

[Ribbon-Blue]

Around 40 airframes, huh? Rotary-wing and fixed wing? I doubt there'll be 20 helicopters in the game, so, more aircraft for us?